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		<title>By: Simple Simon</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this tit-for-tat actually edifying? No one is suggesting (as far as I can tell) that any side is blameless. I am enjoying the alternative viewpoints being made, whether or not I agree with them. It is far better to know what the alternative perceptions are. But, all the interesting perspectives aside, Anakereiti said:

&quot;I want a country where our children are equal. Where my language and beliefs are as important as yours.&quot;

In what ways are &quot;our children&quot; not equal, presently? For in expressing that sentiment of desired equality, you do almost seem to be agreeing with Ansell&#039;s campaign: equality of opportunity for all, in all things, in the sense that no ethnic origin favouritism exists.

It is not possible for &quot;our children to be equal&quot; for they will all have differing talents and aptitudes. The best that can be aspired to is equality of opportunity.

PS
Wigs have long gone from the Court system.  Women can vote and own property and are given equal rights under legislation such as the
Relationship (Property)  Act. Do you have any evidence that leeches and blood letting are again commonplace medical procedures? 

No: I don&#039;t want a country where we are all equal. Yes, I do want a country where we all have equality of opportunity in all things, including the law. 

Talking of law, what do you make of Durie&#039;s comments about Maori law? In your understanding, is there such a thing? Is it written down? If so, where? How long has it been in existence? Are all tribes subject to the same &quot;Maori law?&quot; Or was Durie talking about Maori lore?

BTW - will you be answering this, (from a former post)?

&quot;Value? What’s that mean, in this context? Beliefs? Which ones? Would you anticipate that a white Xtian would have to ‘value’ the Maori pantheon of deities such as Io, Tane, Paparangi, etc., and their spiritist subordinates? Where would a Tohunga or maketu fit into this?&quot;

That was in response to your:

&quot;The whole of NZ should value the language and beliefs of Maori, as much as the English side of things is.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this tit-for-tat actually edifying? No one is suggesting (as far as I can tell) that any side is blameless. I am enjoying the alternative viewpoints being made, whether or not I agree with them. It is far better to know what the alternative perceptions are. But, all the interesting perspectives aside, Anakereiti said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I want a country where our children are equal. Where my language and beliefs are as important as yours.&#8221;</p>
<p>In what ways are &#8220;our children&#8221; not equal, presently? For in expressing that sentiment of desired equality, you do almost seem to be agreeing with Ansell&#8217;s campaign: equality of opportunity for all, in all things, in the sense that no ethnic origin favouritism exists.</p>
<p>It is not possible for &#8220;our children to be equal&#8221; for they will all have differing talents and aptitudes. The best that can be aspired to is equality of opportunity.</p>
<p>PS<br />
Wigs have long gone from the Court system.  Women can vote and own property and are given equal rights under legislation such as the<br />
Relationship (Property)  Act. Do you have any evidence that leeches and blood letting are again commonplace medical procedures? </p>
<p>No: I don&#8217;t want a country where we are all equal. Yes, I do want a country where we all have equality of opportunity in all things, including the law. </p>
<p>Talking of law, what do you make of Durie&#8217;s comments about Maori law? In your understanding, is there such a thing? Is it written down? If so, where? How long has it been in existence? Are all tribes subject to the same &#8220;Maori law?&#8221; Or was Durie talking about Maori lore?</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; will you be answering this, (from a former post)?</p>
<p>&#8220;Value? What’s that mean, in this context? Beliefs? Which ones? Would you anticipate that a white Xtian would have to ‘value’ the Maori pantheon of deities such as Io, Tane, Paparangi, etc., and their spiritist subordinates? Where would a Tohunga or maketu fit into this?&#8221;</p>
<p>That was in response to your:</p>
<p>&#8220;The whole of NZ should value the language and beliefs of Maori, as much as the English side of things is.&#8221;</p>
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